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Auteur: Goreofwar Horaire: 2014-9-3 17:00:35 Titre: [Guide] pour optimiser ses Jades ! (Lvl 1 a 70)
Bien le bonjour ninja de konoha (ou d'ailleur) !
Ici tu va apprendre a optimiser tes jades en fonction de ton personnage !
Alors d'abord, les jades, c'est quoi ?
Les jades sont de petit (gros?) cristaux que l'on intégre au armes/armures des chaque personnage, elles permettent d'augmenter les stats de ce même personnage.
Ce qui permet un personalisation et une optimisation des stats et rend le jeux, bien moins linéaire !
Liste des jades actuelle :
| Force | Augmente l'attaque physique + défense du ninja |
| Agilité | Augmente la vitesse du ninja |
| Chakra | Augmente Strategy.ATK+DEF et les soins effectués par les supports |
| Puissance | Augmente les PV |
| Touché | Réduit les chances d'esquive de l'adversaire |
| Esquive | Augmente les chances d'esquiver |
| Crit | Augmente les chances de coups critiques |
| Block | Augmente les chances de blocage |
| S. Attaque | Réduit les chances de blocage de l'adversaire |
| Countre | Réduit les chances de reçevoir un coup critique |
Fureur | Augmente les points de rage |
Comment avoir des jades ?
Il existe plusieurs façons, la premiere consiste a les acheter dans la rubrique "magasin" du jeu, la plus simple car vous pourez choisir des jades de lvl 1 a 4.
La seconde et d'ouvrir des coffres de jade, vous en trouverez dans certains event ou encore dans les coffres de la chasse au tresor !
Optimiser ses jades en fonction de son personnage :
Avant de commencer a lire le tableau, il est bon de savoir : Les couleurs bleu ciel sont des jades a mettre en cas de nessésité, exemple, si vore tank attaque toujours en dernier, il va mettre deux tours a utiliser son coup spécial
(augmentation du nombre de blocage ou d'esquive) ce qui n'est pas bon en combat, optez donc pour rajouter des jades d'agilité.
3 tableaux, dans l'ordre : DPS, TANK, HEAL.
Il est bon de savoir aussi qu'un support et aussi un dps si il n'est pas un support de type "heal" . Par exemple Temari et Karin sont des support dps, il ne sont donc pas dans le tableau "heal" !
Tableau basé sur :
| La force et Le Chakra (Valeur principal DPS)
|
Main/magique.
Temari, shizune, aku, karin,
| Chakra, Touché, Critique, S ataque. Agilité/Contre |
Main/physique
Asuma, zabuza, neji,
Sasuke, Naruto, Gaara,
Anko, kankuro, shikamaru. | Force, Touché, Critique, S ataque. Agilité/Contre |
| Tableau basé sur : | La puissance, Contre et l'esquive (valeur principal TANK) |
| Iruka, Hinata, Shoji | Puissance, Contre, Block, Force. Agilité |
| Gai sensei | Puissance, contre, esquive, Force. Agilité |
| Tableau basé sur : | Le Chakra, l'Agilité et la Puissance (valeur principal HEAL) |
| Sakura, Ino | Chakra, Agilité, Puissance. S ataque |
Voila, rien de bien compliqué, mais sachez tout de même que ce n'est qu'un build général a suivre pour optimiser, les vrais pro du genre trouveront toujours des build différent et a optimiser en fonction du combat qu'il vont devoir faire, ceci est la base, l'optimisation toute circonstence 
Auteur: Didic82 Horaire: 2014-10-4 16:47:47
Dans la dernière version des traduction les talents du premiers tableau sont :
Force
Agilité
Chakra
Pouvoir
Précision
Evasion
Coup Crit
Blocage
Attaque S
Contre
Furie
Auteur: Sazawashi Horaire: 2014-10-23 23:19:06
Merci de ce guide ^^
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-1-8 12:43:04
Bonjour,
Je croyais que l'attaque S augmentais l'attaque special du perso et pourtant je trouve ceci :
S. Attaque Réduit les chances de blocage de l'adversaire
Peut on me confirmer svp ?
Auteur: familygouelle Horaire: 2018-1-8 12:53:38
Kofuku a repondu a 2018-1-8 11:43 
Bonjour,
Je croyais que l'attaque S augmentais l'attaque special du perso et pourtant je trouve cec ...
En faite les jade attaque S permettent a tes perso de pas se faire bloqué
Exemple un kakuzu qui a 90 % de blocage et toi 10% 'attaque S reduit les chance de te faire bloqué et si tu en as 90 % comme le kakuzu alors tu te fera pas bloqué en espérant tu ait compris
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-1-8 13:04:25
Ah je vois, quelque chose que j'ignorais totalement merci.
Et pour le contre ? je pensais que ça augmentais le % de contre et en fait je trouve ça aussi :
Countre Réduit les chances de recevoir un coup critique
Auteur: familygouelle Horaire: 2018-1-8 13:17:13
Kofuku a repondu a 2018-1-8 12:04
Ah je vois, quelque chose que j'ignorais totalement merci.
Et pour le contre ? je pensais que ça a ...
Le contre permet d'évité tes adversaire ne fassent des coups critiquent
Second exemple :
Un gars ayant itachie est possèdant 90% critique a beaucoup de chance de faire des critiques mais si toi sur tes perso tu possède 50% de contre tu réduit c'est chance de faire des critique sur toi en premier monte l'avant garde a 90% de contre ;)
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-1-8 13:23:50
Ok c'est + clair, donc au final faudrait mettre + de contre sur sa team en + du tank je suppose.
Auteur: familygouelle Horaire: 2018-1-8 13:25:47
Kofuku a repondu a 2018-1-8 12:23
Ok c'est + clair, donc au final faudrait mettre + de contre sur sa team en + du tank je suppose.
Oui ^^ et en premier sur le tank puis les autres persos
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-1-8 17:38:30
Et finalement les jades blocages et esquives c'est utile uniquement sur le tank ou la longue on ne peut plus vraiment s'en servir ? Vu que le tank a aussi besoin de cp critique avec le temps etc...
J'aurais cru que des jades esquives sur les persos pouvait être bénéfique, surtout si on prend un sasuke curse tournoi, mais j'ai vu par çi par la que au bout d'un temps ça change plus grand chose.
Auteur: familygouelle Horaire: 2018-1-8 20:27:27
Kofuku a repondu a 2018-1-8 16:38
Et finalement les jades blocages et esquives c'est utile uniquement sur le tank ou la longue on ne p ...
Les jade de bloque peuvent servir pour bête et rebelle à faire plus de dégats a mettre sur ta team pve (sur les attaquant)
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-1-8 21:55:11
Les jades blocages pour faire + de dégâts ? Comment ça ? (avec les retours de dégâts en contre ?)
Auteur: familygouelle Horaire: 2018-1-8 22:04:41
Kofuku a repondu a 2018-1-8 20:55
Les jades blocages pour faire + de dégâts ? Comment ça ? (avec les retours de dégâts en contre ...
Bah ans l'éven't bête (à13) et l'éven't rebelle tu peux réussir a bloqué le taux de contre est bas au début dans c'est éven't ^^
Auteur: Cyclos Horaire: 2018-1-9 01:53:06
Kofuku a repondu a 2018-1-8 21:55
Les jades blocages pour faire + de dégâts ? Comment ça ? (avec les retours de dégâts en contre ...
En effet, un bon up de dégât consiste à switch ton tank par un 2ème ou 3ème attaquant et de mettre un maximum (90%) de blocage à tes 3 personnages attaquants, qui du coup vont bloquer et renvoyer des dégâts à la bête à chaque fois que celle-ci tapera, ce qui ajoute pas mal de dégâts additionnels, et les tours bonus accordés à tes attaquants via le skill du main est également opé
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-1-9 12:25:14
Donc les contre (renvois de dégâts) sur la bête sont liés au jades blocages, et rien à voir les jades contre... (leur traduction aurait pu prévoir l’ambiguïté, j’étais persuadé que le taux de renvois de dégâts était liés aux jades contre et que le blocage ajouté du blocage à la base, mais j'avais tout faux faux visiblement.
Auteur: Cyclos Horaire: 2018-1-9 14:35:44
Kofuku a repondu a 2018-1-9 12:25
Donc les contre (renvois de dégâts) sur la bête sont liés au jades blocages, et rien à voir les ...
En effet ça porte à confusion. Les jades Contre réduisent les chances que le porteur prenne des coups critiques. Les jades blocage augmente le taux de blocage qui renvoi des dégâts.
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-1-9 14:56:01
Donc avec un stuff par exemple sur un attaquant on a les jades : Force/Agi/cp critique/Attaque S/Précision/Vie, ça peut être intéressant avec les socket d'adds contre/blocages , quoi que si on met de la fury il reste plus que un slot donc quel jades en priorité de manière général ?
Auteur: Cyclos Horaire: 2018-1-9 20:17:05
Kofuku a repondu a 2018-1-9 14:56
Donc avec un stuff par exemple sur un attaquant on a les jades : Force/Agi/cp critique/Attaque S/Pr ...
Il est plus important d'avoir du contre que de l'agilité, en dehors de ton support principal. Tes persos doivent être capés 90% contre, attaque S, critique. Ensuite un max de force/chakra/vie/précision Pour libérer un slot supplémentaire par stuff il suffit de créer 3 jades 10 attaque S et 3 jades 10 contre que tu repartis sur chaque piece du stuff, ça te fait 90% en utilisant qu'un slot par pièce
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-1-9 22:12:51
Donc par exemple avec un main Tai ça donnerai : Force/vie/précision au max, 3 jades 10 attaque S et contre.
On maximise le cp critique aussi je suppose ?
Fury
ça nous fait avec ça 6 slots et il peut en rester 2 pour blocage/esquive je suppose ? (avec les sockets) en gros ça fais mettre toutes les types de jades avec cette formule.
Et le blocage ça reste utile en pvp quand même ou plutôt pour le pve ? (dans la mesure ou on joue en 6 slots pendant un bon moment.)
Et l'"esquive on en pense quoi ? A une époque c’était une stat très appréciable mais quand est il maintenant ?
et l'agilité sur un seul support ?
Auteur: olaflebarbar Horaire: 2018-1-9 22:22:27
Kofuku a repondu a 2018-1-9 21:12
Donc par exemple avec un main Tai ça donnerai : Force/vie/précision au max, 3 jades 10 attaque ...
Tout dépend aussi de ton lvl et de tes jades.
Force : Ninjas physique
Chakra : Ninjas magique
Contre : Tank à monter à 90% avant tout, ensuite mettre sur les autres
Esquive : inutile
Block : Seulement utile sur les attaquants et avant garde pour les rebelles
Critique : Main en dernier. Prioriser les autres qui même s'ils ne peuvent pas crit sur les dmg quand en face le contre est maxé, peuvent crit sur la regen furie.
Hit : 190% sur tous, ensuite monter sur 1 puis 2 ninjas, et ainsi de suite.
Atk S : 90% sur ceux tappant en aoe avant tout, puis sur tous au final
Furie : Supp en prio et faire en sorte que tous aient le full furie tour 1 via les générations de furie. 100 furie sur all par la suite.
Agi : Support avant tout. Vraiment plus tard, mettre sur les autres.
End : Supp et avg au début, puis all par la suite.
Je pense ne rien avoir oublié. C'est ce que j'ai tendance à faire sur mes petits comptes. On a tendance à manquer de places sur les supports et en avoir trop sur les attaquants.
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-1-9 22:52:39
Ok merci pour le récapitulatif.
Donc blocage hormis bêtes, rebelles, pas d'interret pvp.
Et l'esquive pourquoi elle devient inutile au final ?
Auteur: olaflebarbar Horaire: 2018-1-9 23:33:23
L'opposé de l'esquive, c'est la précision et avoir 190% n'est pas le plus dur. 190% précision - 90% esquive = 100% toucher
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-1-9 23:42:58
Evidemment vu sous cet angle,
Ok merci pour tous ces renseignements, jvais bien revoir mon organisation des jades
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-2-4 02:21:22
Lu, je déterre un peu, mais du coup c'est inutil de up au delà de 90% le contre/attaque S ?
Auteur: cadcogg Horaire: 2018-2-4 02:45:09
Kofuku a repondu a 2018-2-4 01:21
Lu, je déterre un peu, mais du coup c'est inutil de up au delà de 90% le contre/attaque S ?
c'est ça une fois les 90% sur les 5ninjas, tu peux viser les 90% en moins de jades pour faire de la place à d'autres jades !
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-2-4 12:06:16
Mais du coup pourquoi cette limite de 90% et non 100% ? après je veux bien comprendre qu'au delà de 100% cela ne changerai rien , à moins pour le contre qu'on ait en face un adversaire avec un critique supérieur à 100% ?
(en tout cas pour l'instant je me suis fixé sur le 90% attaque S et j'essais de faire pareil avec le crit).
Auteur: Kofuku Horaire: 2018-2-7 12:32:05
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Je croyais que l'attaque S augmentais l'attaque special du perso et pourtant je trouve cec ...
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